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		<title>By: Wardeh</title>
		<link>http://gnowfglins.com/2009/12/18/whats-so-great-about-water-kefir/comment-page-1/#comment-38147</link>
		<dc:creator>Wardeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaimieis - Yes, I have. Usually it means the grains aren&#039;t thriving and the organism balance is off. You should rinse that slime off very well, and I would recommend adding minerals to your water kefir batches. I use these mineral drops and they saved my grains: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gnowfglins.com/recommends/mineral-drops&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;liquimins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Give the grains a few batches to come round, rinsing them as necessary to remove the slime.

Also - are you using a muslin bag? I have seen slime when using bags, too, as sometimes the grains get stifled and can&#039;t circulate freely as they would like. I am a bag-user proponent for the sake of convenience, but I also recommend to get rid of it fast if you think for any reason that it is hampering the grains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaimieis &#8211; Yes, I have. Usually it means the grains aren&#8217;t thriving and the organism balance is off. You should rinse that slime off very well, and I would recommend adding minerals to your water kefir batches. I use these mineral drops and they saved my grains: <strong><a href="http://gnowfglins.com/recommends/mineral-drops" rel="nofollow">liquimins</a></strong>. Give the grains a few batches to come round, rinsing them as necessary to remove the slime.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; are you using a muslin bag? I have seen slime when using bags, too, as sometimes the grains get stifled and can&#8217;t circulate freely as they would like. I am a bag-user proponent for the sake of convenience, but I also recommend to get rid of it fast if you think for any reason that it is hampering the grains.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaimeis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaimeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wardeh

Have you heard of water kefir grains getting a film or granular &quot;slime&quot; to them?  My grains have been in use for almost 2 weeks, I only ferment for 48 hours and transfer them to another quart of water with sucanant.  I keep them at room temperature, the resulting beverage still tastes the same, but I feel like my grains are smaller and I&#039;m losing them.  

Thanks,

Jaime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wardeh</p>
<p>Have you heard of water kefir grains getting a film or granular &#8220;slime&#8221; to them?  My grains have been in use for almost 2 weeks, I only ferment for 48 hours and transfer them to another quart of water with sucanant.  I keep them at room temperature, the resulting beverage still tastes the same, but I feel like my grains are smaller and I&#8217;m losing them.  </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jaime</p>
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		<title>By: whatsmixing.com &#187; Water Kefir</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatsmixing.com &#187; Water Kefir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] day.  The benefits of water kefir to your gut and immune system are many &#8211; check them out here and here (so much more than sugary or fake sugary sodas, which have nothing in them that is good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] day.  The benefits of water kefir to your gut and immune system are many &#8211; check them out here and here (so much more than sugary or fake sugary sodas, which have nothing in them that is good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Mathewson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Mathewson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  Wardeh, I sell water kefir grains in  Australia for any Aussies looking to get started with water Kefir.
http://mathewsons-cultures-for-life.webs.com/
Our family had enjoyed it for a while  now, for drinking and  any time we are feeling under the weather. With 5 small children it&#039;s very useful for when Gastro  tries to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Wardeh, I sell water kefir grains in  Australia for any Aussies looking to get started with water Kefir.<br />
<a href="http://mathewsons-cultures-for-life.webs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mathewsons-cultures-for-life.webs.com/</a><br />
Our family had enjoyed it for a while  now, for drinking and  any time we are feeling under the weather. With 5 small children it&#8217;s very useful for when Gastro  tries to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 04:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wardeh,
We&#039;ve started using water kefir in our home and my 3-year-old son loves it. My favourite way to have it is slightly diluted with water, and a squeeze of fresh lemon juice. We&#039;ve also experimented a bit and we really like adding some mandarin peel to the second fermentation, but found it got a bit bitter after a while, so a shorter period is better in our opinion :-) It gives it a lovely subtle mandarin flavour.
We also found we had to acclimatise ourselves to it (to avoid... umm... a quick &quot;cleanse&quot; of the bowels!), starting with small amounts and gradually increasing as we got used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wardeh,<br />
We&#8217;ve started using water kefir in our home and my 3-year-old son loves it. My favourite way to have it is slightly diluted with water, and a squeeze of fresh lemon juice. We&#8217;ve also experimented a bit and we really like adding some mandarin peel to the second fermentation, but found it got a bit bitter after a while, so a shorter period is better in our opinion <img src='http://gnowfglins.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It gives it a lovely subtle mandarin flavour.<br />
We also found we had to acclimatise ourselves to it (to avoid&#8230; umm&#8230; a quick &#8220;cleanse&#8221; of the bowels!), starting with small amounts and gradually increasing as we got used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wardeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wardeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booboo - No, you don&#039;t need to use raw milk for DAIRY kefir. Just don&#039;t use ultra-pasteurized as it cannot support a culture.

The water kefir tastes more like soda than wine, but if fermented long it can have a fermented flavor/smell also.

Probably what you saw at your friend&#039;s was Kombucha -- the mother culture looks a big floating mushroom. :) Water kefir&#039;s mother culture are grains, like small translucent pebbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booboo &#8211; No, you don&#8217;t need to use raw milk for DAIRY kefir. Just don&#8217;t use ultra-pasteurized as it cannot support a culture.</p>
<p>The water kefir tastes more like soda than wine, but if fermented long it can have a fermented flavor/smell also.</p>
<p>Probably what you saw at your friend&#8217;s was Kombucha &#8212; the mother culture looks a big floating mushroom. <img src='http://gnowfglins.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Water kefir&#8217;s mother culture are grains, like small translucent pebbles.</p>
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		<title>By: Booboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have to use raw milk to make dairy kefir?  I am seriously thinking of trying water kefir, but I don&#039;t know what it will taste like or where to get the kefir. Does it taste like wine? How much does the kefir cost? 
A friend of mine was making kefir in a large jar on the counter in her kitchen and it looked like it had a large mushroom in it. It totally grossed me out. Your version didn&#039;t weird me out as much and I love pop though I&#039;ve found out all the cornsyrup in it is terrible for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have to use raw milk to make dairy kefir?  I am seriously thinking of trying water kefir, but I don&#8217;t know what it will taste like or where to get the kefir. Does it taste like wine? How much does the kefir cost?<br />
A friend of mine was making kefir in a large jar on the counter in her kitchen and it looked like it had a large mushroom in it. It totally grossed me out. Your version didn&#8217;t weird me out as much and I love pop though I&#8217;ve found out all the cornsyrup in it is terrible for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an answer!!!

The only thing milk really loses during the culturing process is some of the lactose which is consumed by the culture.  The vitamins remain in tact.  Milk kefir is more nutritionally dense given that it has more calories, fat and vitamins (or at least different vitamins if you happen to be using juice to make water kefir) but the general probiotic profile is the same—water kefir is just a bit less concentrated so some people find they need to drink a larger quantity of it to get the same benefits.

 

Think of it this way: by kefiring your raw milk you’re just making your raw milk better.  If you like drinking kefir, using it in cooking, etc., then kefiring your raw milk just adds benefits to a beverage you would be consuming anyway.  If you aren’t a huge fan of milk kefir but want the probiotics of kefir, then use water kefir for the beneficial yeast and bacteria and use straight raw milk for other things.

 

Hopefully that makes sense, but let me know—we’re always happy to help!

 

Julie at www.culturesforhealth.com gave me this info!  Thank you Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an answer!!!</p>
<p>The only thing milk really loses during the culturing process is some of the lactose which is consumed by the culture.  The vitamins remain in tact.  Milk kefir is more nutritionally dense given that it has more calories, fat and vitamins (or at least different vitamins if you happen to be using juice to make water kefir) but the general probiotic profile is the same—water kefir is just a bit less concentrated so some people find they need to drink a larger quantity of it to get the same benefits.</p>
<p>Think of it this way: by kefiring your raw milk you’re just making your raw milk better.  If you like drinking kefir, using it in cooking, etc., then kefiring your raw milk just adds benefits to a beverage you would be consuming anyway.  If you aren’t a huge fan of milk kefir but want the probiotics of kefir, then use water kefir for the beneficial yeast and bacteria and use straight raw milk for other things.</p>
<p>Hopefully that makes sense, but let me know—we’re always happy to help!</p>
<p>Julie at <a href="http://www.culturesforhealth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.culturesforhealth.com</a> gave me this info!  Thank you Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Wardeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wardeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tammy, that&#039;s a great question. I will do some digging and write back. Feel free to remind me if I don&#039;t get back here for awhile. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tammy, that&#8217;s a great question. I will do some digging and write back. Feel free to remind me if I don&#8217;t get back here for awhile. <img src='http://gnowfglins.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love water kefir!!!!!  It is awesome!!!!!  I&#039;ve only been making it for about two weeks and I&#039;m hooked.  I love to experiment... and I&#039;ve already done a bunch of it!

I do have questions that I cannot seem to get an answer to.

What are the comparisons of water Kefir and milk Kefir?  Does Milk Kefir still have all the good qualities of the milk such as Vitamin D, calcium, etc…  Surely milk kefir has more vitamins and nutrition than water kefir… since milk has so much more in it than water.  If the answer is they are both the same, than what is the point of making milk kefir?  I use whole raw milk.  I pay $9.00 a gallon for this milk.  It is senseless to use this for milk kefir if water (free) kefir has all the same nutrition.

Any direction to find the answers on the above will be greatly appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love water kefir!!!!!  It is awesome!!!!!  I&#8217;ve only been making it for about two weeks and I&#8217;m hooked.  I love to experiment&#8230; and I&#8217;ve already done a bunch of it!</p>
<p>I do have questions that I cannot seem to get an answer to.</p>
<p>What are the comparisons of water Kefir and milk Kefir?  Does Milk Kefir still have all the good qualities of the milk such as Vitamin D, calcium, etc…  Surely milk kefir has more vitamins and nutrition than water kefir… since milk has so much more in it than water.  If the answer is they are both the same, than what is the point of making milk kefir?  I use whole raw milk.  I pay $9.00 a gallon for this milk.  It is senseless to use this for milk kefir if water (free) kefir has all the same nutrition.</p>
<p>Any direction to find the answers on the above will be greatly appreciated!</p>
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