34 responses to “Agave Syrup: Good or Bad?”

  1. Vickilynn Haycraft

    Shalom Wardeh,

    Excellent article. We stopped using agave about a year ago. I use raw honey in my breads and organic sucanat for baking for the family, but for me I only use stevia. I am very interested in your re-makes of recipes using natural sweeteners.

    –IN Messiah Yeshua,
    Vickilynn
    Micah 6:8

  2. Kelly

    I’ve read conflicting reports about agave over the past couple of years. But after reading Debra Lynn Dadd’s study on it, I decided it would still be okay to use.

    http://www.sweetsavvy.com/sweetener/summary.php?id=Agave%20Nectar

    She makes note of how the fructose in agave is different than the fructose in high fructose corn syrup.

    I have begun to use stevia much more, though. I like stevia the best because it has zero carbs!

  3. Kelly

    It looks like the link I posted isn’t working right. If you go to http://www.sweetsavvy.com and then click on the “agave nectar” link on the left side under “Sweeteners to Enjoy,” you can read Debra’s report about it.

  4. gilliebean

    I bought agave to give it a try and because several of my friends prefer it in their tea. If you come to my home and ask for tea you have a huge choice of sweeteners: brown sugar, raw sugar, Splenda, stevia, honey, and agave! But no aspartame and no refined sugar. Anyway!

    I tried agave in my tea and did not prefer it so I’ve been using it in my kombucha. Once it’s out, I think I simply will not purchase it again. I prefered honey in my kombucha anyway. Those who enjoy tea in my home will have plenty of other options.

    Also, I use stevia in pretty much everything I can. Any research out there yet about stevia?

  5. Kelly

    It is hard to know what’s really true about agave. I, too, would be interested to hear how Debra Lynn Dadd would respond to the other negative things brought up about fructose. I read the comments on the post you linked to, and by the end of those comments, even they didn’t have a final conclusion about agave.

    I’m thankful for your post and am always looking for new information about this sweetener. Despite the differing opinions about agave in those comment posts, everyone did seem to agree that less sweetener is always best!

  6. Tiffany

    I use raw honey and continue to do so. We do live “in the land of milk and honey.”
    I will be taking orders soon (June) if anyone is interested.

  7. gabrielle

    hi wardeh. thanks for this info! i plan to read more about it. i know that agave is much sweeter than other sugars so you only need to use about 2/3 to achieve the same level of sweetness as white sugar or honey. so i would be curious to see if this information took that into account.

    in other words, it could be up to 33% higher in fructose and it would come out even because you are using 33% less total agave.

    in something like kombucha, you arent using it for sweetness so you arent actually using less. but, in ice cream for instance, 2/3 a cup of agave makes ice cream as sweet or sweeter than 1 full cup of cane sugar (all its forms ive tried which are several!) or honey.

  8. Rose

    Timely article! :) My husband and I had just bought a small bottle to try and have been researching the health effects. Our conclusion was similar. Use what we have but don’t go out and buy more. I found a good run down on natural sweeteners on grist while researching:

    http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-10-agave-sweet/

  9. Kelli

    I currently reading Eat Fat Lose Fat by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig. In the Kombucha recipe they say “white sugar, rather than honey or Rapadura, and black tea, rather than flavored teas, give the highest amounts of beneficial organic acids. Non-organic tea is high in fluoride, a known thyroid depressant, so always use organic tea.”

    So, after I am out of agave, I think I will make my kombucha with organic cane sugar.

    Can I just complain for a minute, though? First, coconut is bad for us, then it is good. Soy is the new superfood, not we shouldn’t touch it. Coffee helps here, doesn’t help there. Don’t eat carbs, it is alright to eat sprouted carbs. Agave is a healthy sweetener, now it causes a fatty liver! I know a certain amount of eating is using common sense, but I also have 2 big jugs of agave to go through. I was kind of comparing agave to honey. It comes from a cactus, so I thought of it as natural. But I guess if it goes through processing, it is no longer a whole food.

  10. gabrielle

    i wanted to rephrase a little… i shouldnt be comparing the fructose amounts of agave to those of cane sugars because cane sugar is sucrose rather than fructose… but the comparison still works for honey.

    however, many studies also show that high amounts of sucrose cause all kinds of health problems. so now fructose does too; big surprise.

    you would need some lengthy studies to see the real differences between the ill effects of sucrose vs the ill effects of fructose (and account for amounts being adjusted to achieve the same sweetness) before you had anything at all conclusive, i think.

    i hear you, kelli! it is always something. but the best approach, in my opinion, is what works for your family. for me, i check my blood sugar regularly and find that agave sweetened foods do not spike it AT ALL. in fact, it spikes much more from whole grain breads (even sprouted, organic, fresh ground, all homemade, etc) and brown rice, lentils, etc, than equal amounts (per gram of carb) of agave.

    this is one of my main concerns, so this is why i use agave.

    rapadura, sucanat, and other cane sugars are still highly concentrated sugar that has been refined to a certain extent (some more, some less) and all refined foods, especially sugars ought to be used in moderation.

    here is another controversy… truly raw honey (opaque, thick, pale and expensive) has a lot of health benefits but there is a lot of evidence that once honey is heated it not only loses its healthy properties (kills enzymes, etc) but it actually becomes quite toxic. if this is true then baking with honey could be worse than using refined cane or beet sugars!

  11. gabrielle

    let me rephrase that last portion about the kombucha…

    normally, recipes use less agave than they do other sugars because it takes less to make the same sweetness.

    but with kombucha, you arent mixing it up to get a certain sweetness of taste. so most people i know who use it in kombucha use the same amount as they would use of other sugar. i always used 1 cup of agave for 1 gallon of sugar and that is the same amount i used if i used sugar.

    so i just meant that with kombucha, you arent mixing and then immediately tasting for sweetness which you would then probably adjust to use less agave. you are actually giving the sugar for the microbes to eat, not you.

    so when you consume the final product, it is something different that is now chemically changed from what you began with. i dont think there are any studies that compare the actual sugar content of the final kombucha product using different sugars.

    i just meant “you arent using less” when you initially add the agave. i mean, you reduce the amount for ice cream, but are you reducing it in the kombucha? probably not.

    as for the ‘back door long-term damage’ from fructose you mention, i just wonder how conclusively it has been proved that the effects are worse than the long known, adverse, long-term effects of cane sugars/sucrose? i dont believe that agave has been widely used for long enough to make those studies very accurate at this point, and again this is compared to what?

    i will definitely be reading more about this on my own!

  12. Marg

    Your post is very timely for me. My hubby is pre-diabetic. We all watch our sugar intake but especially him. I have been considering agave syrup as of yesterday. I couldn’t find it at the grocery store, so didn’t purchase any today. After reading what you posted and the links within, I don’t think I’ll be looking for it.
    Thank you.

  13. jason

    We’ve found that when baking or preparing food with honey, you can always use 1/4 of the amount of sugar called for. ALWAYS. And you don’t have to reduce the amount of liquid in the recipe, as you would if you used the same amount.

    Since banning white & brown sugar from the house, we found that we bake less. (Partially due to spending enough time in the kitchen, already, making our other food.) We have some brown rice syrup that’s over two years old and it’s been a few years since we’ve used turbinado sugar.

    We just eat so much other yummy food: a high amount of raw veggies & greens & fruits, beans, grains, homemade salad dressings, cumin, garlic, cilantro, lemon juice… All of these foods have wonderful flavors and you can’t fully taste or appreciate them until you stop overloading your taste buds with sugar (including honey, agave, etc.).

    Now, sometimes this backfires. We are probably more likely to cheat or overindulge at social events because we don’t usually have cookies in the house. But, that’s really an issue of developing the right mindset (remembering why we’re doing this).

    I really don’t mean to sound holier than thou, but I have found I much prefer a sliced whole banana (not local, sorry Wardeh) and some raisins in my oatmeal, over adding honey. And, I’ll take my tea unsweetened, please.

  14. Kelli

    I wish I could take my tea unsweetend! I am using stevia there.

    I was in Sherm’s and Fred Meyer yesterday, looking for coconut sugar, and didn’t find any. I realized after I left I should have checked the ethnic foods isle, I am just so used to checking the natural section and they have coconut oil there. But if I find any locally, I’ll share where. But if we can go in on a bulk order, I’d like to try it.

    I think that is so interesting, Gab, that your blood sugar doesn’t spike after agave, but it does after grains, rice, and lentils. Does this mean we should eat low-carb? I am kind of serious (always pondering what is healthiest) and kind of kidding, cause I know that was so off topic.

    I am enjoying reading about this.

  15. jason

    On the other hand, we just have small kids currently. Our take on baked treats may certainly change as they grow older.

  16. Kelli

    Read today’s post on kellythekitchencop.com, or the weston price foundation site, they seem to be the same thing. I wonder if the difference is the name brand.

  17. Nurturing Wisdom

    Thank you for the information about agave. I’ve been reading more and more literature about how refined it is and about the fructose it contains.

    I’ve experimented with using fruits as the sweetener in my baked goods but that requires the proper amount and the overall taste that I want.

    I’ll try to share some of my successful experiments.

    I’m going to look for coconut sugar and try it in my recipes.

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  19. Kimbrah

    I am so glad you posted on this. I was just thinking of researching this as an alternative for sugar in my diet, when WAH-LAH! there this post was in my Reader. Thanks for saving me some leg work! :)

  20. gabrielle

    here is an new, interesting article on the different sugars from u.s. news and world report…

    http://health.msn.com/health-topics/diabetes/meal-planning/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100237387&GT1=31047

  21. Kelly

    Hi, Wardeh,

    I don’t know if you’re still interested in reading anything about the agave controversy. If you are, here’s a letter from the president of the Madhava agave company.

    http://stanford.wellsphere.com/healthy-eating-article/madhava-s-craig-gerbore-responds-to-agave-nectar-controversy-here/584480

    Blessings!

    –Kelly
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